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Median, Case-Schiller, and What’s Real

There are various methods to manipulate statistics to eventuate a predetermined or predisposed outcome.  Or if one is a blogger, one may pick and choose other articles which include those conclusions which one already agrees with. (That is my personal fav.)  Unless every last smidgen of data is included and analyzed as regards a particular event or behavior, there is a chance that the resulting statistics will not be all inclusive, or maybe just plain inaccurate.  For comparison and as much possible clarity, it is usually best to use the number set that is standard for a particular statistic.  An example would be to use sales to calculate monthly inventory instead of some arbitrary and misleading number called ‘deals’.

The comments sections of blogs seem to have a running argument about whether the quoted statistic should be using the average or the median or maybe even the mean.  In my observation, all are reasonable and eventually reflect the same outcomes or trends.  Median is the number most used for displaying real estate prices trends and IMO, it is probably the best indicator of real estate price trends.  But it is just a price trend and in the short term it is a mistake to assume that if the median price of homes in a particular area is rising or falling, that the price of individual homes is concurrently rising or falling.  If fifteen homes sold in Coto de Caza last month and the median price rose, it does not particularly follow that the price of all, some, or even any of the homes that sold, sold for more than they sold for last year, or last month, or any other time period.

from Wikipedia”

In probability theory and statistics, a median is described as the numeric value separating the higher half of a sample, a population, or a probability distribution, from the lower half. The median of a finite list of numbers can be found by arranging all the observations from lowest value to highest value and picking the middle one. If there is an even number of observations, then there is no single middle value; the median is then usually defined to be the mean of the two middle values.[1][2]

In a sample of data, or a finite population, there may be no member of the sample whose value is identical to the median (in the case of an even sample size) and, if there is such a member, there may be more than one so that the median may not uniquely identify a sample member. Nonetheless the value of the median is uniquely determined with the usual definition. A related concept, in which the outcome is forced to correspond to a member of the sample is the medoid.

At most half the population have values less than the median and at most half have values greater than the median. If both groups contain less than half the population, then some of the population is exactly equal to the median. For example, if abc, then the median of the list {abc} is b, and if abcd, then the median of the list {abcd} is the mean of b and c, i.e. it is (bc)/2.

When we see a article with a title saying something like “Home Prices are Rising”, or “Home Prices are Falling”, it is our responsibility as readers to understand what we are reading.  (Cuz, the author most likely won’t tell us).  We have seen articles in the OC Register and other MSM with titles like this, and while I hesitate to point and say they are intentionally misleading, they are misleading.  There are some areas in Orange County, (Irvine and maybe Santa Ana), in which some homes have appreciated since 2009, but it is not the majority of areas, and it is a small percentage of the total number of OC homes.

Most of the time, a change in the median home price will indicate a trend in individual home prices, but not always. Median home prices in the OC have risen.  Individual home prices have not, or in other words, home values are not appreciating.  And the fundamentals affecting home prices have not improved .  Is household formation increasing? Are wages and income increasing?  Is employment increasing?

Every method for analyzing data only reflects exactly that data which is used and does not always fit our notion of what is important.  Personally, I think that over time, the median price is the best number to use to keep track of home prices, but I have to remember what I am looking at.  For me, Case-Schiller is the bible of home price statistics and I get a little uppity whenever I read someone questioning Case-Schiller results or methods, but it is dangerous to get complacent and never question that which we take for granted, and even Case-Schiller should be examined.

Jim the Realtor at bubbleinfo.com, takes on Case-Schiller in “August Sales Revisited.”

from Jim Klinge

We’ll take a closer look at the Case-Shiller Index, but if I were you, I wouldn’t be betting in their futures parlour based on what you see on the street.

Open House: Sign on the Dotted Line

6 Via Presea

6 Via Presea, the topic of much reader discussion on our post “Shadow Inventory Sees The Light, (And It May Not Be So Pretty)” just listed n open house for this Sunday, September 5th from 11am – 3pm.  It also comes with this warning:

SHOWING AGENTS AND BUYERS: ACKNOWLEDGMENT REGARDING TOXIC MOLD DISCLOSURE & RELEASE MUST BE SIGNED *PRIOR* TO ACCESS. ENTRANCE ACKNOWLEDGES RECEIPT OF SAID FORMS (POSTED).

If any of our readers are brave enough to go check this out, we’d love to hear your thoughts.  $166/sqft for 6038 square feet and 5.5 acres of land sounds like a potential “Blue Light Special” in the making… of course, it could also be a candidate for “Extreme Home Makeovers”.

If you go see it, please reply to this thread and give us the low down… what did you think?  What did you find out?  Did they have cookies?

RODEO

The Rancho Mission Viejo Rodeo will be in San Juan Capistrano on August 28-29.  Click on this link to get all the info.  See you there.

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Squatter Strategy

It is just too inflammatory to include a Coto example here so we will speak of hypotheticals.  A new squatter strategy is exposing itself to those looking at numbers and statistics.  When all the pretend short sale and loan mod strategies have expended their usefulness and the one year time limit on a notice of trustee sale is about to conclude, thereby eventuating a foreclosure auction, declare bankruptcy.  Yup.  There is no telling exactly how long the bankruptcy will forestall the auction, but in the past when we would only observe postponements as a result of bankruptcy declaration, we are now seeing NTS cancellation with bankruptcy posted as the reason.  Since an NTS is only good for one year, the lender must start the whole foreclosure process over again.  It would be stupid to say that any of these squatters are stupid.

Sold @ $154 per Square Foot

41322 De Luz Road, Temecula

Our first thought is that of course it could sell for $154 per square foot because it is in Temecula, and real estate in the Inland Empire is much less expensive than South Orange County.  But then it occurs to us, we can not build a home for $154 per square foot.  The photos of 41322 De Luz Road, Temcula would seem to indicate some fairly nice construction and appointments.  6 acres and a 6 car garage; that is worth $1,000,000 to us and the house just seems like an added bonus.  By our estimation, the dirt has a negative cost, and that does not make sense to us.  Many or you, our dear readers, are much more familiar with construction costs.  Could you please offer your input on the possible costs per square foot to build this home?

BEDS: 7
BATHS: 5.5
SQ. FT.: 6,481
$/SQ. FT.: $154
LOT SIZE: 5.87 Acres
PROPERTY TYPE: Residential, Single Family
STYLE: One Level
VIEW: Canyon, Hills, Mountain, Valley
YEAR BUILT: 2006
COMMUNITY: Temecula (Hills West)
COUNTY: Riverside
MLS#: K10025893
SOURCE: MRMLS
STATUS: Closed

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Orange County Monthly Inventory

There were 11,462 MLS listings of resale homes in Orange County on July 31.

There were 2278 MLS resales in Orange County in the month of July.

At the July rate of sales there is 5.03 months of supply.

Auction on the Courthouse Steps

Have you wondered what it would be like to bid for a home at a foreclosure auction on the courthouse steps?  I have.  It sounds particularly intimidating.  Calculated Risk has posted a ‘you tube’ from Jim the Realtor.

Please comment on what you get from it and how you feel about the process.  I was nervous watching and listening.  The pace is very fast and there is very little time to think or consider.  At the same time, it gives me some confidence because it seems that if you know your top dollar, the process is simple enough that you only have one decision to make; to bid or not.  If you can make that decision within about 3 seconds with the distraction of the auctioneer speaking, it would appear that a novice could bid successfully.  By successfully, I mean bid up to your maximum, not “win” the auction.

A few of you have emailed me about the auction process and I think this video is helpful.